tag:support.primatelabs.com,2011-01-31:/discussions/geekbench/890-ssd-doesnt-change-resultsPrimate Labs: Discussion 2018-01-04T18:10:19Ztag:support.primatelabs.com,2011-01-31:Comment/259182702013-03-16T15:27:42Z2013-03-16T15:27:45ZSSD Doesn't Change Results?<div><p>Oh yes, one more thing. At the same time that I added the SSD, I
upgraded the RAM from 8GB to 16GB.</p></div>Sarasota Joetag:support.primatelabs.com,2011-01-31:Comment/259182702013-03-18T02:30:58Z2013-03-18T03:25:44ZSSD Doesn't Change Results?<div><p>for what I have seen Geek Bench is more about cpu testing rather
than HDD/SSD ad for the memory same thing if its the same speed
then there wont be a noticeable difference.</p></div>cbigfoottag:support.primatelabs.com,2011-01-31:Comment/259182702013-03-18T07:31:11Z2013-03-18T07:31:11ZSSD Doesn't Change Results?<div><p>Joe -</p>
<p>Thank you for your message. Geekbench only measures processor
and memory performance, so even though a new SSD makes your
computer faster, your Geekbench score won't change.</p>
<p>Also, Geekbench only measures memory speed so increasing the
amount of memory without increasing the memory speed won't improve
your Geekbench score.</p>
<p>Let me know if you have any other questions and I'd be happy to
help out.</p>
<p>Best,<br>
John</p></div>Johntag:support.primatelabs.com,2011-01-31:Comment/259182702013-03-30T04:04:10Z2013-03-30T04:04:11ZSSD Doesn't Change Results?<div><p>Joe: If benchmark is 8000 but response time is slower than a
machine benchmarked at<br>
6500 with an SSD;</p>
<p>Doesn't this point out the limited value of benchmarking?<br>
Please clarify the relationship between practical response time and
Benchmark<br>
and situations in which a higher Benchmark is still a slower less
responsive machine.</p></div>scidoctag:support.primatelabs.com,2011-01-31:Comment/259182702013-03-30T04:25:49Z2013-03-30T04:25:50ZSSD Doesn't Change Results?<div><p>scidoc: Yes, it would seem that this does point out the limited
value of benchmarking. Or at least the limited value of
benchmarking something as marginally practical as processor speeds
and RAM speed. I already know which processors are faster, and
which RAM is faster.</p>
<p>What I want to know, and what imagine most people would want to
know, is which computer in which configuration will give me the
most bang for the buck. I'd like to see a real world practical
bench test that calculates how fast each computer will actually do
things, like boot up, open big apps, write data to disc, render
images, etc.</p>
<p>A 2011 MacBook Pro with a 2.3 GHz Core i5 benchmarks at 6,000.
If you max out the RAM and put in a 6G SSD (I got the Mercury
Extreme 6G from OWC) it performs faster than not only a machine
that benchmarks at 8,000, but one that benchmarks at 13,000. So
these numbers are of limited utility.</p></div>Joetag:support.primatelabs.com,2011-01-31:Comment/259182702013-03-31T04:39:35Z2013-04-13T01:39:21ZSSD Doesn't Change Results?<div><p>Part of the problem is that if we are both correct, we are
pointing out the limitations of typical benchmarking which is
antithetical to the purpose of this website.</p></div>scidoctag:support.primatelabs.com,2011-01-31:Comment/259182702013-04-02T18:38:57Z2013-04-02T18:38:57ZSSD Doesn't Change Results?<div><p>Joe -</p>
<p>Absolutely. Systems with SSDs feel more responsive than systems
with traditional HDDs. The difference is so pronounced that we
recommend all users purchase systems with SSDs if they can afford
one large enough for their needs.</p>
<p>However, systems with SSDs aren't necessarily faster at
processor-intensive tasks than systems with HDDs. For these tasks
it's the performance of the processor and memory that make the
biggest difference, and it's this performance that Geekbench
measures.</p>
<p>Depending on your needs you may be happier with a slower
processor and a faster SSD than a faster processor and a slower
HDD. We try to make it clear what Geekbench measures (and what
Geekbench doesn't measure) to help you make informed purchasing
decisions.</p>
<p>Best,<br>
John</p></div>Johntag:support.primatelabs.com,2011-01-31:Comment/259182702013-07-31T11:44:43Z2013-08-03T17:32:44ZSSD Doesn't Change Results?<div><p>I was wondering this, but it is obvious when you look at the
Geekbench scores that it is processor and ram being pushed, the
heart and lungs of the machine.</p>
<p>I did get to score a little higher going from 2Gb to 3Gb of ram
in my aging, venerable Macbook Pro A1211 2.16GHz core 2 duo on Snow
Leopard, Geekbench went up a few hundred to 2983, yeah, I know you
modern hip guys with new Macbook Pros are laughing, but I still got
an Exprecard34 slot which I can use, and do lol</p>
<p>As said, Geekbench score isn't the end of the story, you could
have the fastest storage on the planet but if your machine is
taking minutes to render or process, it makes no difference, I have
no SSD at the moment and don't see the point, sure this thing would
boot quicker etc, but I can top the ram and processor, so no speed
of drive is going to make any difference. I read someone say that
virtual memory would work quicker with an SSD, but I'm not a
technical bod, so I don't know.</p>
<p>As an example of things seeming faster.</p>
<p>I have an older Pentium 4 Hackintosh that I like to mess with,
it seems to boot quicker than this thing and doesn't seem to top
out so easily, although things like Garageband seem to work better
on the Macbook pro.</p>
<p>Some tasks I prefer to do on it because, subjectively, it seems
faster, certainly Word opens quicker { but is an older version}, I
uploaded its Geekbench the other day, the Pentium 4 was about 1064
IIRC, so about a score of 2000 less than my old Macbook Pro, in
action as functional machines, I didn't expect that kind of
difference in the heart and lungs performance.</p>
<p>There again, I guess the Hackintosh has been optimized for that
rig...</p></div>garitag:support.primatelabs.com,2011-01-31:Comment/259182702017-12-27T22:21:15Z2017-12-27T22:21:17ZSSD Doesn't Change Results?<div><p>I have a late 2009 iMac with a 2.8GHz i7 processor and a mid 2014 MacBook Pro with - ostensibly - the same processor. The main differences I can see between the two are:<br>
iMac - processor is 860 - MacBook Pro - processor is 4980HQ<br>
iMac - 8MB L3 cache - MacBook Pro - 6MB L3 cache<br>
iMac - no L4 cache - MacBook Pro 128MB L4 cache<br>
Other than than the only difference is that the iMac has (at the moment) a hard drive whereas the MacBook Pro has an SSD (both 1TB)<br>
Having said all that the MacBook Pro has a multi-core score of 15257 whereas the iMac is only 7354.<br>
I am considering putting an SSD in the iMac in the hope that the performance will be similar to the MacBook Pro.<br>
On the strength of this discussion, am I just setting myself up for disappointment?<br>
Apart from the HS/SSD situation - and the age of the two machines - the specs seem quite similar.<br>
What - other than the storage medium - could make such a vast difference?</p></div>davidg2020tag:support.primatelabs.com,2011-01-31:Comment/259182702018-01-04T18:10:18Z2018-01-04T18:10:18ZSSD Doesn't Change Results?<div><p>Hi davidg2020,</p>
<p>As John mentioned, adding an SSD is not expected to change your Geekbench scores. However, it may improve the responsiveness of your system for a lot of everyday tasks, and could be a wise purchase depending on your use case.</p>
<p>It's difficult to explain why two specific processor models perform differently, as that is a consequence of their designs as well as a number of other factors. You can compare your results to the aggregate scores for each processor on the <a href="https://browser.geekbench.com/processor-benchmarks">Processor Benchmark Chart</a>, if you're interested in how those processors perform on average.</p>
<p>All the best,<br>
Colin<br>
Primate Labs Inc.</p></div>Colin